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    • CommentAuthorzskoda
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2010

    eom Springer Online Encyclopaedia of Mathematics. Needed an entry, I am sick of typing it in full and do not like to make it incomplete. So why not using eom as a link whenever I need to quote a particular article from eom, thus citations will be shorter with the same online functionalilty.

    • CommentRowNumber2.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2010

    Why not call the page Encyclopaedia of Mathematics and make eom a redirect?

    • CommentRowNumber3.
    • CommentAuthorzskoda
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2010

    I prefer other way around, for more than one reason. First is that I want that eom (what is also a memo for the URL) comes to memory. Second Encyclopaedia of Mathematics is the book and the entry is predominantly NOT about the book, but about the partial online edition which has URL eom (i.e. eom. So in that case we would have too long Springer Online Encyclopaedia of Mathematics (oh no).

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    • CommentAuthorzskoda
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2010
    • (edited Apr 18th 2010)

    Done. I added 2 redirects and made some minor changes.

    There are some things about eom which are a bit of problem. I mean the additions do not take care of synonyms. So even in Hazewinkel's department there are errors like making a wrong link, where one needs spectrum in the sense of algebraic topology a link is to spectrum of a ring in the sense of Grothendieck and Cartier. Next word stack has its meaning in computer architecture, and that one is the entry about. Hazewinkel looks into the expansion of eom in systematic manner, namely they add those entries which in their computer research of math texts are statistically the most frequent among the entries not yet in eom. This is of course making those words which appear in more than one meaning more likely to enter, and those for which one of the meanings is already in the encyclopaedia new emerging meanings will not come into the row for execution because the system looks just for new words. So word stack in the nPOV meaning is absent! Among so many thousand concepts stack is absent. Well, blame the computers.

    In such a special case maybe someone would have to warn the main editor that such a big thing is missing (and maybe help writing a good entry).

    • CommentRowNumber5.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2010

    What is too long about Springer Online Encyclopaedia of Mathematics? With a redirect you never need to type it once the page has been named. I find the page as it is very confusing, I think the title of a page should actually describe the page, not be an obscure abbreviation. I’m not sure what you mean about memory either, since you only ever need to type [[eom]] to create a link.

    • CommentRowNumber6.
    • CommentAuthorzskoda
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2010

    You have Springer Online etc. spelled there in the page. Having eom makes us remember it. I was objecting when people used MO abbreviation in the discussions without explanation (making reference incomprehensible, say for me), here when I did not know what it was, but that usage has forced me to learn something what is very often used. eom covers about 20% of potential basic new entries I type, so it could be often used.

    I noticed when the redirect is typed than the original page does not have a backpointer in the list of referring items. I am not sure if it is still so, but I noticed that many times.

    Of course, I don't care much.

    • CommentRowNumber7.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2010

    I still don’t understand what you are saying about remembering. What is it you want to remember, exactly?

    Anyone else have an opinion?

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    • CommentAuthorDavidRoberts
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2010

    I agree with Zoran, but for no good reason other than parsimony.

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2010
    • (edited Apr 19th 2010)

    I second Mike: why not have a descriptive title and then use the abbreviations as reddirects? Somebody who comes to this page from anywhere should get a good idea of what the entry is about from just looking at the title.

    I would also think it would be good if the entry started more with a description: “The Springer encyclopedia of mathematics is such-and-such…”

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