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    • CommentRowNumber1.
    • CommentAuthorDmitri Pavlov
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2020

    Redirect for bicategorical localization

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    • CommentRowNumber2.
    • CommentAuthorDmitri Pavlov
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2020
    • (edited Oct 20th 2020)

    Can we obtain the bicategory of Grothendieck toposes and geometric morphisms as a bicategorical localization?

    A statement that I have in mind is that the bicategory of Grothendieck toposes and geometric morphisms should be something like the bicategorical localization of the 1-category of localic groupoids, (internal) functors, and some version of (internal) essentially surjective fully faithful functors as weak equivalences.

    Has anything like this appeared in the literature?

    I am aware of the results mentioned at classifying topos of a localic groupoid, where Joyal–Tierney and Moerdijk get us pretty close to such a statement, but not quite.

    The original work of Pronk seems to treat only etale groupoids and etendues.

    • CommentRowNumber3.
    • CommentAuthorDavidRoberts
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2020

    There was discussion of this on the category theory Zulip chat recently. I think the construction of Moerdijk of a localic category from a localic groupoid, where he then shows their categories of sheaves are equivalent, is something that might be able to be avoided, if we take localic categories rather than localic groupoids as the basic input. If we want the non-invertible 2-arrows, then localic groupoids and the functors between them is not sufficient. Moerdijk’s notion of morphism between localic groupoids in the localisation looks like bitorsors between the associated localic categories.

    I definitely think it should be possible, and I don’t think it’s in the literature.

    • CommentRowNumber4.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2020

    My suspicion is that it should help to consider localic groupoids as a category enriched over double categories, where one direction of the hom-double-categories consists of internal natural transformations in the category of locales and the other direction consists of levelwise inequalities with respect to the locally-ordered nature of the category of locales. Neither of these two kinds of 2-cells alone can possibly carry all the information in the 2-cells of toposes, since the former is invertible while the latter is thin, but when combined there is some hope.

    • CommentRowNumber5.
    • CommentAuthorDmitri Pavlov
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2020

    For the case of invertible 2-morphisms, this is asserted (but unfortunately proved only for homotopy 1-categories) in Ieke Moerdijk’s The classifying topos of a continuous groupoid I, Theorem 7.7. Specifically, bicategorically localizing etale-complete localic groupoids (with open source and target maps) at open essentially surjective fully faithful functors produces the bicategory of Grothendieck toposes, geometric morphisms, and natural isomorphisms.

    Part II deals with noninvertible 2-morphisms, but Moerdijk only formulates it as an equivalence of the bicategory of Grothendieck toposes, geometric morphisms, and natural transformations (not necessarily invertible) and the bicategory of localic groupoids (with open source and target maps), complete flat bibundles between their completions, and homomorphisms of bibundles. However, Part II does not say anything about bicategories of fractions.

    • CommentRowNumber6.
    • CommentAuthorDmitri Pavlov
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2020

    Added Moerdijk’s result.

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    • CommentRowNumber7.
    • CommentAuthorDmitri Pavlov
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2020
    • (edited Dec 9th 2020)

    Re #3:

    There was discussion of this on the category theory Zulip chat recently.

    Is there a way to see the discussion without registering? (Is there any particular reason why the chat not available for public viewing?)

    • CommentRowNumber8.
    • CommentAuthorDavidRoberts
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2020

    There was meant to be a public archive/readable version, but I don’t know what happened with that yet. I’m messaged one of the mods.

    • CommentRowNumber9.
    • CommentAuthorDmitri Pavlov
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2021

    Is there a citeable reference for the fact that taking the bicategory of fractions of localic etale groupoids with respect to fully faithful essentially surjective functors produces a bicategory equivalent to the bicategory of etendues with invertible 2-morphisms, where etendues are understood in the generalized localic sense?

    Something like Corollary 35 in Pronk’s Etendues and stacks as bicategories of fractions, but for locales instead of topological spaces?

    • CommentRowNumber10.
    • CommentAuthorDavidRoberts
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2021

    I suspect not, though one might be able to cobble it together using something of mine for the localic groupoid side (to get a bicategory of fractions), and then using the comparison theorem Pronk proves, pointing out any changes (or not) necessary from the topological etendue version.

    • CommentRowNumber11.
    • CommentAuthorzhaoxurui
    • CommentTimeSep 2nd 2021
    In [2CF3] of this page, it seems that \alpha need not be an iso-2-cell. But in Pronk's article, \alpha needs to be an iso-2-cell. Is this a new result? (or it is just my misunderstanding...)
    • CommentRowNumber12.
    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeSep 2nd 2021
    • (edited Sep 2nd 2021)

    Thanks for the alert.

    For the record, clause 2CF3 is here.

    Since the entry does not claim any originality but entirely attributes this to Pronk

    Given such a setup, Pronk constructs…

    it seems safe to assume that this is not a claim but a glitch. If you are an expert on the matter, please feel invited to fix the entry.

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