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    • CommentAuthorKevin Lin
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010
    • (edited Jun 25th 2010)
    Hi. I just joined the n-Forum, but some of you will probably recognize me from mathoverflow...

    I just had a couple of small suggestions:

    1. When you go to http://ncatlab.org/ you get some page which is probably not the page that people are intending to go to. Maybe you can make that page redirect to http://ncatlab.org/nlab/ instead?

    2. And similarly for, respectively, http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/ and http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/category/

    3. I think you should make the n-Lab link on the n-Category Cafe somehow more visible. You should also add a link to the n-Forum on the n-Category Cafe. Similarly, I think you should make the link to the n-Forum on the n-Lab more visible. I was having hard time finding this place... and then I resorted to google.

    Anyways, keep up the good work, y'all! For no particular reason, I have not been a very regular visitor of any of the "n-"sites, but I think I will be a frequent visitor from now on.
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    • CommentAuthorHarry Gindi
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010
    • (edited Jun 25th 2010)

    Welcome! We needed an algebraic geometer here very badly. Good to have you aboard!

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    • CommentAuthorKevin Lin
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010
    • (edited Jun 25th 2010)
    Thanks!

    I am not sure if I am really an algebraic geometer, but okay. ;-)
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    • CommentAuthorHarry Gindi
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010
    • (edited Jun 25th 2010)

    I’m just going by your MO record/your website.

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    • CommentAuthorAndrew Stacey
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010

    Hi Kevin and welcome to the nStuff,

    The stuff at golem probably isn’t going to get any more redirects because there’s much more there than just the n-Category Cafe (it’s all Jacques Distler’s stuff). I guess a link to the nForum wouldn’t be a bad idea, but you’ll have to see if one of the hosts likes the idea for that.

    Redirecting http://ncatlab.org to http://ncatlab.org/nlab is certainly possible, whereupon the current page would still be obtainable by going directly to http://ncatlab.org/web_list or by its other URL http://nlab.mathforge.org (though one could make the case for that being redirected as well). However, given that the nlab is linked off that page, I’d rather hear from the users of the personal webs before putting in any redirects.

    Links, of course, are easier. The nForum is linked from the main page and in the main table of contents (though that’s a bit obscure as it’s called “Latest Changes”). Adding a link to every page would be a bit trickier as it would involve hacking the page template a little (which, though, is something I’m pondering as not all the links that are there are sensible ones).

    It’s very useful to have your perspective on this. As “oldtimers”, we’ve gotten used to where everything is and it’s hard for us to see how it looks to a newcomer. Keep reporting any oddities you find!

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    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2010

    The nForum is linked from the main page and in the main table of contents (though that’s a bit obscure as it’s called “Latest Changes”).

    I fixed that a bit.

    • CommentRowNumber7.
    • CommentAuthorKevin Lin
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010
    • (edited Jun 26th 2010)

    Okay, so I see that there’s more stuff on golem than just the n-Category Cafe. Still, when you go to http://golem.ph.utexas.edu, there’s nothing but an empty page, which is not useful to anybody; I think it would be useful to have at least a link to the n-Category Cafe there (as well as links to the other stuff on golem).

    Presumably the relevant parties will read these postings…

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010

    The trouble is that none of us has any admin access to golem. The nCategory Cafe is run for us by Jacques Distler, on his equipment. He kindly offered to do this for us, but since Jacques is a busy man, and we are grateful that he has been helping us at all, we try to reduce the number of requests to him. But next time there is an occasion, I will mention the request to link the nLab more prominently and maybe also the nForum.

    But concerning the nLab: we can of course change HomePage. If you have a suggestion for how to improve it, please go ahead.

  9. But concerning the nLab: we can of course change HomePage.

    I guess Kevin is not saying we should change the nlab home page, but that we should adjust things in a way that http://ncatlab.org redirects to http://ncatlab.org/nlab and not to http://ncatlab.org/web_list as it is now. I agree with him.

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010

    This is something that we have to ask Andrew Stacey to look into.

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    • CommentAuthorHarry Gindi
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010

    Andrew said he can do it as long as you guys with (active) personal webs approve.

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010

    Ah, right. Yes, I not only approve of it but urge that we do that.

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    • CommentAuthorHarry Gindi
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010

    If you want it done more quickly, you should probably shoot him an e-mail, since I don’t know that he’ll come back and read this specific thread on the forum.

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    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010

    I approve.

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    • CommentAuthorAndrew Stacey
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2010

    Just caught me in time - turned on the computer to load lots of stories on to the kids’ music players for the long journey!

    I think I’ve done it correctly. It seems to work correctly: http://ncatlab.org/ gets redirected to http://ncatlab.org/nlab (which further redirects to the HomePage) whilst everything else seems to work as before. In particular, the list of webs is at http://ncatlab.org/web_list.

    If it turns out that this has made a complete mess of things, it’s easy for Urs or Toby to revert. Log in to mathforge and edit the file instiki/public/.htaccess. Look for the chunk of lines beginning # Redirect root to nlab and add a # at the start of the third line of that chunk.

    Now fly off and amuse yourselves. Don’t worry the moonbeams, and don’t kill my white rabbits, and come home when you are hungry! The window on the roof is usually open. Good-bye!

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    • CommentAuthorKevin Lin
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010
    • (edited Jun 29th 2010)

    Andrew–Thanks!

    If I may make another suggestion (or expand on a previous suggestion): On the top of every nLab page there is a bar with links to Home Page, All Pages, Recently Revised, etc. — I think it would be nice if there were an nForum link on this bar for quicker and easier access.

    I find the “meta” link at the top of every MathOverflow page to be very convenient; I think this would be very convenient as well.

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