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    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010

    Some things are too simple to be simple.

    • CommentRowNumber2.
    • CommentAuthorJohn Baez
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010

    I could not resist being the first to create a stub for true.

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    • CommentAuthorHarry Gindi
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010

    “More advanced treatment”

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    “More advanced treatment”

    This also sounded strange to me. Also, I thought that saying that the (-2)-groupoid is the true truth-value in “categorical logic” was misleading, because it is naturally identified as the true truth value in the classical logic internal to Set.

    I edited true a bit to reflect this. If you are not happy with this, feel free to roll back.

    • CommentRowNumber5.
    • CommentAuthorHarry Gindi
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    @Urs: I think it was meant as a joke. I quoted it because it made me giggle.

    • CommentRowNumber6.
    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    Okay, I admit I don’t get the joke.

    Let’s hear what John thinks about the new version of the entry.

    • CommentRowNumber7.
    • CommentAuthorTodd_Trimble
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    It didn’t sound like a joke to me. I thought John meant that the man off the street is not conversant with the notion of (n)-groupoid for negative n, or doesn’t know he’s conversant with that.

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    • CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    My reading was similar to Todd’s.

    I think Urs need a beer. Here you go :beer:

    (Too bad we don’t have icons here. Every forum needs a beer icon :))

    • CommentRowNumber9.
    • CommentAuthorHarry Gindi
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010
    • (edited Jun 30th 2010)

    @Todd: I dunno, it just seemed tongue-in-cheek to me. It’s talking about “more advanced treatments” of the most degenerate object in all of mathematics. (Okay, maybe the empty set, but still…)

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    • CommentAuthorIan_Durham
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    Every forum needs a beer icon

    I like the animated ones, personally. :)

    Seriously, though, I still have issues with the fact that so many colloquial words and terms have been given separate mathematical meaning (e.g. true). It makes conversing with mathematicians very difficult.

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    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    Understanding degenerate objects can be very tricky! But I read it as more advanced treatments of categorical logic, rather than more advanced treatments of the true proposition.

    As for icons, you don’t need any local to the forum when you have entire WWW at your disposal. So have a beer: beer

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    I freely admit that I don’t understand the subtext of the beer discussion.

    Anyone any comments on my latest edits to true?

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    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    @Urs: I like them. I made some more.

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    • CommentAuthorJohn Baez
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010

    It was a joke. I’m glad some of you got it. But I didn’t intend for this joke to stay there forever… I just wanted to create the stub so people would improve it.

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    • CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010

    I freely admit that I don’t understand the subtext of the beer discussion.

    The beer subtext is that we’re hoping you can find some time to enjoy yourself and not take things too seriously.

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    • CommentAuthorIan_Durham
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010

    The beer subtext is that we’re hoping you can find some time to enjoy yourself and not take things too seriously.

    And I thought Urs was German? German beer is like the nectar of the gods!

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