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   • CommentAuthorzskoda
   • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2011
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   Author: zskoda
   Format: MarkdownItexI could not find a better title, for the new entry, unfortunately: [[opinions on development of mathematics]] (should be mainly bibiliography entry). I need some place to start collecting the titles which talk about generalities of mathematical development, what is important, what is not. This is relevant for but it is *not* philosophy. Not only because of traditional focus of philosophy on "bigger" things like true nature of beings, meaning, ethics, cognition and so on, but more because the latter is very opinionated in the usual sense, even politics. Though we should of course, choose those which have important content, it is useful to collect those. We can have netries like math and society, even math funding for other external things of relevance, eventually. This was quick fix as I have no time now.

   I could not find a better title, for the new entry, unfortunately: opinions on development of mathematics (should be mainly bibiliography entry). I need some place to start collecting the titles which talk about generalities of mathematical development, what is important, what is not. This is relevant for but it is not philosophy. Not only because of traditional focus of philosophy on “bigger” things like true nature of beings, meaning, ethics, cognition and so on, but more because the latter is very opinionated in the usual sense, even politics. Though we should of course, choose those which have important content, it is useful to collect those. We can have netries like math and society, even math funding for other external things of relevance, eventually. This was quick fix as I have no time now.

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   • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
   • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2011
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   Author: TobyBartels
   Format: MarkdownItexI made it [[opinions on the development of mathematics]] for grammatical reasons, but why not just [[development of mathematics]]? That page could have the same opinions, as well as any accepted facts that there might be. I expect that David Corfield will disagree with you about what philosophy is, but then he disagrees with other philosophers too, at least when it comes to philosophy of mathematics.

   I made it opinions on the development of mathematics for grammatical reasons, but why not just development of mathematics? That page could have the same opinions, as well as any accepted facts that there might be.

   I expect that David Corfield will disagree with you about what philosophy is, but then he disagrees with other philosophers too, at least when it comes to philosophy of mathematics.

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   • CommentAuthorzskoda
   • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2011
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   Format: MarkdownItexThere is nothing to disagree -- there are many reasonable different notions and not that many names for notions. I prefer that it is not too inclusive as then it becomes misleading. I know that grammatically in text one writes the, but in the titles people often skip it, but you can keep it with your vision, you though more on that. I did not want the development of mathematics as this would be suggesting a historical issue. I meant something what would be more precise "the development and current state of mathematics". Opinions suggest that we cite mutually inconsistent and possibly controversial (but ideally with nontrivial content, wit, aesthetics, new points, good authorship) literature rather than that we offer our own viewpoint (that is what I could foresee, I may be wrong in my low expectations).

   There is nothing to disagree – there are many reasonable different notions and not that many names for notions. I prefer that it is not too inclusive as then it becomes misleading.

   I know that grammatically in text one writes the, but in the titles people often skip it, but you can keep it with your vision, you though more on that.

   I did not want the development of mathematics as this would be suggesting a historical issue. I meant something what would be more precise “the development and current state of mathematics”. Opinions suggest that we cite mutually inconsistent and possibly controversial (but ideally with nontrivial content, wit, aesthetics, new points, good authorship) literature rather than that we offer our own viewpoint (that is what I could foresee, I may be wrong in my low expectations).

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   • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
   • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2011
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   Format: MarkdownItexOne usually only drops "the" at the beginning (as in my suggested title). People certainly could interpret "development of mathematics" in a narrow historical sense, but an article with a range of opinions to start with would set the trend for future writers. But perhaps [[development and current state of mathematics]] would be better.

   One usually only drops “the” at the beginning (as in my suggested title).

   People certainly could interpret “development of mathematics” in a narrow historical sense, but an article with a range of opinions to start with would set the trend for future writers. But perhaps development and current state of mathematics would be better.

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   • CommentAuthorzskoda
   • CommentTimeAug 24th 2011
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   Author: zskoda
   Format: MarkdownItexI like your new proposal.

   I like your new proposal.

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   • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
   • CommentTimeAug 24th 2011
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   Author: TobyBartels
   Format: MarkdownItexAll right, then I'll move it and leave the others as redirects.

   All right, then I’ll move it and leave the others as redirects.