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    • CommentAuthorAndrew Stacey
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009

    We said we'd give the new system a month to try it out. That month's now up, so it's time to take a survey of people's opinions. Here's a mini-questionnaire to focus people's thoughts, but feel free to completely ignore it.

    1. Overall, is the new system better or worse than the old?

      If the new:

    2. What of the old system have you missed?

    3. What would make the new system even better?

      If the old:

    4. Which bits of the new system were most annoying?

    5. Which bits of the old system did you particularly miss?
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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
    I find the new system an improvement. I think we had much more useful discussion here than we would have had in the original "latest changes" or in any query box.

    We have also heard people complain that when tyyping into the nLab they feel like "they are talking to nobody" and I think the nForum in principle serves to remedy this.
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    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
    1. Overall, I find the new system better. I am quite surprised about how much better it is; I thought that it would make little difference and was just a convenience for people who wanted to use RSS feeds. Discussion on the Forum has really picked up and produced useful results, such as Understanding Set (most recently).
    2. The old system was a bit more self-contained, which is nice. I think that more was reported under it too.
    3. Ah … I don't know; probably fixing whatever people write under (4). We should pay especial attention to people who might not have used the new system as much as they did the old one. Unfortunately, they are less likely to write here, so let's be sure to ask (at least Zoran).
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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
    My impression is that the original idea of blog-wiki interaction "talk there, work here" happens to being closer to being realized by the pair nForum-wiki now.

    Maybe we never found a really good imagery to transport the idea of this interaction.

    I am imagining a split-screen application where on the left you see some discussion software at work, like the nForum, and on the right see the nLab pages. A "chat channel" on the left and a "blackboard channel" on the right. Or the like.
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    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009

    I have a split-screen application that can do just that; it's my web browser, if I have two windows open.

    But what it can't do is let me click on a link in one window in such a way that it opens the link (possibly in a new tab) in the other window. Maybe there's a Firefox plugin for that …

    (We could do that ourselves with frames. But that would require closer integration.)

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    • CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009

    Through the magic of CSS, is it possible to make the n-Forum look more like the n-Lab so that it feels more integrated than it is?

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    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
    I like the new system better, partly for the RSS and partly for the reasons Toby said. I think it is true, though, that fewer changes get reported this way, especially fewer from new contributors. I think the biggest improvement we could make would be to make it easier to make latest-changes entries and more integrated with the 'lab.
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    • CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009

    A "Comment" edit box that would automatically populate a latest changes page would be cool (and I'm sure you have discussed that ad nauseum already)

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    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009

    Yeah, I've wanted something like that for a while, but it would of course involve hacking instiki.

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