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    • CommentRowNumber1.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2012

    Created judgment.

    • CommentRowNumber2.
    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2012
    • (edited Jul 20th 2012)

    Thanks! I put in some about judgements in first-order logic, in the hope that this will be clearer to less experienced readers.

    • CommentRowNumber3.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeJul 20th 2012

    Thanks!

    • CommentRowNumber4.
    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2012
    • (edited Sep 17th 2012)

    I have expanded the Idea-section at judgment a bit, trying to make the whole entry more useful to an actual newbie (check if I succeeded) and trying to connect it to the discussion that I am having with Toby in the other thread on hypothetical judgements/sequents.

    As a result the Idea-section now overlaps quite a bit with the previous material that I sent to an Examples-section. But I think little harm is done for the moment.

    I have also added references.

    • CommentRowNumber5.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2012

    In editing judgment to refer to deductive system, natural deduction, and logical framework correctly, I became unhappy with the overlaps mentioned above, so I moved the discussion of hypothetical and generic judgments down to its own section after the examples.

    • CommentRowNumber6.
    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2012

    I was going to complain, but it’s all right after all! So I’ll just complain about demoting the spelling ’judgement’ to parenthetical.

    • CommentRowNumber7.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2012

    Well, your version is not grammatical English in my idiolect — you need at least commas around ’or judgement’. I also think that the sentence (which is already a bit long with complicated structure) is more awkward to read without the parentheses, but I won’t insist beyond the commas.

    • CommentRowNumber8.
    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2012

    your version is not grammatical English in my idiolect

    It is in mine (I suppose because it is a definition1) and is the only way to put the spellings on equal footing. But I will let it rest as you have it.


    1. ‘A meta-proposition is called a judgement or judgment.’ would also work, but ‘Here we make a judgment or judgement.’ or ‘A judgement or judgment is made here.’ would not. 

    • CommentRowNumber9.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2012

    Well, the spellings are already not on an equal footing, because the page is named ’judgment’ and not ’judgement’. And because one of them comes first, since English is written linearly. It doesn’t seem to me that adding some punctuation to make the sentence read more smoothly makes much of an additional difference. I’m not trying to give an advantage to the spelling I use either; I’d be just as happy with “judgement (or judgment)”. But I also don’t want to spend any more time discussing this! (-:

    • CommentRowNumber10.
    • CommentAuthorTobyBartels
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2012

    the page is named ’judgment’ and not ’judgement’

    That's one of our naming conventions.

    one of them comes first

    Are you one of those people who insists that the first spelling or pronunciation listed in a dictionary is the preferred one, no matter how much the dictionary stresses in its introduction that they are all equally good unless specifically labelled otherwise? (^_^)

    • CommentRowNumber11.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2012

    I’m not going to take the time to try to respond thoughtfully to that. (-:

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