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    • CommentRowNumber1.
    • CommentAuthorSridharRamesh
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2016
    • (edited Apr 6th 2016)

    It has occurred to me, for some reasons, to ponder the following: Let C be a category, and consider the question of whether there is some category D and functor f : C -> D such that 1) f is an initial object in the category Hom(C, D), and 2) any other g : C -> E which is an initial object in Hom(C, E) factors uniquely through f. (Thus, f is an initial object in a particular full subcategory of C/Cat (the subcategory of coslices under C which are initial with respect to any parallel functors))

    It seems to me that there should always be such an f, constructible “syntactically” as for many free constructions, but I haven’t checked this rigorously and, at any rate, I’d like to have a better grasp on what exactly it is. Is there some nicer way to think about this?

    • CommentRowNumber2.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2016

    Hmm, I’m very unused to thinking about limits in functor categories that are not pointwise. Can you give an example of an initial object in a functor category Hom(C,D) that is not simply constant at an initial object of D?

    • CommentRowNumber3.
    • CommentAuthorSridharRamesh
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2016
    • (edited Apr 6th 2016)

    Oh, that’s a good question! Actually, my fundamental interest is in my question in the context of the 2-category LexCat rather than Cat (thus, with C, D, E above taken as lex categories, f, g taken as lex functors, etc.), but I thought looking at Cat first might provide me useful intuition. Let us switch to the LexCat context, though, since that is ultimately what I care about. Here, initial objects are not generally given pointwise; e.g., an initial object in LexCat(C, Set) is given by the global sections functor C(1, -), which is not everywhere 0-valued.

    • CommentRowNumber4.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2016

    Okay. I still don’t have any intuition for the general case, though, sorry. My intution doesn’t suggest to me that such a “universally initial functor” ought to exist, because it’s trying to be initial in two different ways at once; what sort of “syntax” were you thinking of?

    • CommentRowNumber5.
    • CommentAuthorSridharRamesh
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2016
    • (edited Apr 6th 2016)

    I was thinking of something like constructing D as whatever can be obtained by applications of the following three “constructors”, and nothing else:

    1) A constructor which puts in D a copy of everything in C (which we can think of as our lex functor f : C -> D)

    2) Also, a constructor which, given any diagram g of shape C in D (i.e., given any lex functor g : C -> D) yields morphisms in D to serve as the components of a natural transformation from f to g [as well as yielding the morphism equalities (i.e., 2-cells) in D that make this transformation actually natural].

    3) Also, a constructor which, given any lex g : C -> D and parallel natural transformations n1, n2 : f -> g yields morphism equalities in D to make n1 and n2 equal.

    • CommentRowNumber6.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2016

    Ah, I see. I think you’ll need to also include some constructors ensuring that D has finite limits, but then it seems like it should work. Seems probably hard to say anything about what the result will look like, though.

    • CommentRowNumber7.
    • CommentAuthorSridharRamesh
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2016

    Ah, right; I was leaving the constructors giving D finite limits implicit, along with the constructors ensuring that D has compositions of morphisms, transitivity of morphism equalities, etc. But, yes, add in “0) Constructors making D a lex category”. :)

    Alas, it would be great if there were a nicer characterization of the result, but perhaps it is not to be…