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    • CommentAuthorzskoda
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2010

    As the IP of my instituite is in the last month banned from sending comments to the cafe my answer to Andrew's post which I strongly oppose is the following:

    I would be against any kind of similar legal trash in mathematics. It is immoral to present else's work as own's own and there are various sanctionings in publishing of scientific works. That is plagiarism and it is MORE than negation of pedantic obligation to trace the chain of sources used in some way. Having said that, it would be insane to ask for all the chain of quotations of included work and put the burden to mathematicians to track it literally and legally, to follow the criptic, dull, boring, space-consuming, distracting, language-biased and often redicolous long quotations which come with software. With those big boxes which are mainly empty and have lots of envelopes, space, notices, and which definitely has alway distracted me from library shelves containing similar conglomerates. God saves us!

    The only important thing is not to intend to misuse or to pick and choose intentionally not quote while quoting simialr work of others. This is beyond being expressable by legal nonsense.

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    • CommentAuthorAndrew Stacey
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2010

    I think maybe you misunderstood my intention. My (vague!) proposal was to protect the current best practises so that we don't have to worry about such things in future. The GPL is there because simply giving stuff away doesn't work - it doesn't preserve the right of others to continue to give it away or stop someone coming along later and saying "Stop giving it away". It's a recognition that freedoms need protecting.

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    • CommentAuthorzskoda
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010

    Your intentuion is of course good, but unlike the licence files with software which do not hurt anybody having a legal obligations to follow a chain of ackonledgemenets beyond just normal relative estimate on need would be a nightmare. Having to do someting legally means no exceptions, hence no reasoable estimates which level of novelty and usage of work is reaosnable to get into explicit quoting.