Start a new discussion

Not signed in

Want to take part in these discussions? Sign in if you have an account, or apply for one below

Site Tag Cloud

Vanilla 1.1.10 is a product of Lussumo. More Information: Documentation, Community Support.

• CommentRowNumber1.
• CommentAuthorjesuslop
• CommentTimeJul 25th 2018
• (edited Jul 25th 2018)

Hi, in Category of elements, it says:

It is the category whose objects are pairs $(c,x)$ where $c$ is an object in $C$ and $x$ is an element in $P(c)$ and morphisms $(c,x) \to (c',x')$ are morphisms $u:c \to c'$ such that $P(u)(x) = x'$.

S. Awodey in his notes here in his definition (actually in proposition 8.10) defines the concept in the same terms, but he adds:

actually, the arrows are triples of the form $(u,(x,C),(x',C'))$ satisfying…

And would be nice to have that here also (that the arrows are those triples). If not technically the same arrow could belong to two hom-sets.

• CommentRowNumber2.
• CommentAuthorTodd_Trimble
• CommentTimeJul 25th 2018

My own feeling is that this is merely a slight and forgivable abuse of language; for me it is implicit that the domain and codomain are always part of the data of a morphism, and the $u$ names the only extra datum needed to complete the description.

• CommentRowNumber3.
• CommentAuthorMike Shulman
• CommentTimeJul 25th 2018

In other words, we generally use this definition of a category in which it doesn’t matter whether or not the hom-sets are disjoint. If you want a structured way to make the hom-sets disjoint, see protocategory.

• CommentRowNumber4.
• CommentAuthorMike Shulman
• CommentTimeJul 25th 2018

However, this is a good example of that point, so perhaps it should be brought out more explicitly.