nForum - Discussion Feed (I8) 2022-08-19T04:26:32-04:00 https://nforum.ncatlab.org/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher Urs comments on "I8" (90952) https://nforum.ncatlab.org/discussion/9733/?Focus=90952#Comment_90952 2021-03-29T08:42:36-04:00 2022-08-19T04:26:32-04:00 Urs https://nforum.ncatlab.org/account/4/ added pointer to: Paul Howe, Dimitrios Tsimpis, Around (56) in: On higher-order corrections in M theory, JHEP 0309 (2003) 038 (arXiv:hep-th/0305129) diff, v15, current

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DavidRoberts comments on "I8" (80904) https://nforum.ncatlab.org/discussion/9733/?Focus=80904#Comment_80904 2019-11-10T19:04:11-05:00 2022-08-19T04:26:32-04:00 DavidRoberts https://nforum.ncatlab.org/account/42/ Sure, I’d be interested to have a look. Teaching is over, so have a bit more time now.

Sure, I’d be interested to have a look. Teaching is over, so have a bit more time now.

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Urs comments on "I8" (80903) https://nforum.ncatlab.org/discussion/9733/?Focus=80903#Comment_80903 2019-11-10T09:24:39-05:00 2022-08-19T04:26:32-04:00 Urs https://nforum.ncatlab.org/account/4/ Yeah, but it’s more complicated: They write tr(R 2)tr(R^2) instead of p 1p_1. The conversion factor for thee two should be 1/4&pi; 21/4\pi^2, but of course it depends on conventions. Worse, ...

Yeah, but it’s more complicated:

They write $tr(R^2)$ instead of $p_1$. The conversion factor for thee two should be $1/4\pi^2$, but of course it depends on conventions. Worse, when deriving the $\ell^6$-correction, they ignore the $\ell^3$-correction but then “absorb a numerical factor” in $\ell^6$ (below (4.3)). So at this point the two $\ell$-s in the two prefactors are not even the same anymore.

So what I did in the entry was that I took for the $\ell^3$-term the prefactor that I know from other reasons to be there. Then the $\ell^6$ term is correct for some rescaling of $\ell$. Of course there should really be a comment on that step in the entry.

And it would be good to sort out the actual relative factor between these two correction terms. If you are interested in digging into this, please let me know.

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DavidRoberts comments on "I8" (80902) https://nforum.ncatlab.org/discussion/9733/?Focus=80902#Comment_80902 2019-11-10T08:37:11-05:00 2022-08-19T04:26:32-04:00 DavidRoberts https://nforum.ncatlab.org/account/42/ I think what was dG 7(&ell;)=&minus;12G 4(&ell;)&wedge;(G 4(&ell;)&minus;12p 1(R))+&ell; 6I 8(R) d G_7(\ell) \;=\; -\tfrac{1}{2} G_4(\ell) \wedge \big( ...

I think what was

$d G_7(\ell) \;=\; -\tfrac{1}{2} G_4(\ell) \wedge \big( G_4(\ell) - \tfrac{1}{2} p_1(R) \big) + \ell^6 I_8(R)$

should be

$d G_7(\ell) \;=\; -\tfrac{1}{2} G_4(\ell) \wedge \big( G_4(\ell) - 2\ell^3 \tfrac{1}{2} p_1(R) \big) + \ell^6 I_8(R)$

as the $\ell^3$ correction term looks like it should be, based on the text, $\ell^3 G_4(\ell) \wedge \tfrac{1}{2} p_1(R)$, not $\tfrac{1}{2}G_4(\ell)\wedge \tfrac{1}{2}p_1(R)$. Is this right?

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Urs comments on "I8" (80900) https://nforum.ncatlab.org/discussion/9733/?Focus=80900#Comment_80900 2019-11-10T06:40:03-05:00 2022-08-19T04:26:32-04:00 Urs https://nforum.ncatlab.org/account/4/ added the statement of I 8I_8 appearing as the O(&ell; 6)O(\ell^6) higher curvature correction to 11d supergravity (here): A systematic analysis of the possible supersymmetric higher curvature ...

added the statement of $I_8$ appearing as the $O(\ell^6)$ higher curvature correction to 11d supergravity (here):

A systematic analysis of the possible supersymmetric higher curvature corrections of D=11 supergravity makes the $I_8$ appear as the higher curvature correction at order $\ell^6$, where $\ell$ is the Planck length in 11d (Souères-Tsimpis 17, Section 4).

At this order, the equation of motion for the supergravity C-field flux $G_4$ and its dual $G_7$ is (Souères-Tsimpis 17, (4.3))

$d G_7(\ell) \;=\; -\tfrac{1}{2} G_4(\ell) \wedge G_4(\ell) + \ell^6 I_8 \,,$

where the flux forms themselves appear in their higher order corrected form as power series in the Planck length

$G_4(\ell) \;=\; G_4 + \ell^6 G_4^{(1)} + \cdots$ $G_7(\ell) \;=\; G_7 + \ell^6 G_7^{(1)} + \cdots$ ]]>
Urs comments on "I8" (76812) https://nforum.ncatlab.org/discussion/9733/?Focus=76812#Comment_76812 2019-03-24T11:04:27-04:00 2022-08-19T04:26:32-04:00 Urs https://nforum.ncatlab.org/account/4/ made a note on “Inflow to M5-brane anomaly” (here). This is a bit of a story. Should copy this to M5-brane, eventually. diff, v4, current

made a note on “Inflow to M5-brane anomaly” (here). This is a bit of a story. Should copy this to M5-brane, eventually.

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Urs comments on "I8" (76758) https://nforum.ncatlab.org/discussion/9733/?Focus=76758#Comment_76758 2019-03-23T05:09:17-04:00 2022-08-19T04:26:32-04:00 Urs https://nforum.ncatlab.org/account/4/ an entry to glorify the combination I 8&colone;148(p 2&minus;(12p 1) 2) I_8 \;\coloneqq\; \tfrac{1}{48} \Big( p_2 \;-\; \big( \tfrac{1}{2} p_1\big)^2 \Big) seriously, I’ll ...

an entry to glorify the combination

$I_8 \;\coloneqq\; \tfrac{1}{48} \Big( p_2 \;-\; \big( \tfrac{1}{2} p_1\big)^2 \Big)$

seriously, I’ll need to refer to this from various other entries, so it’s useful to have a link

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