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Hi again.
As I said (here) in your other thread (btw, you don’t need to start a new thread for each issue in this context), for questions regarding the nLab’s server installation you’ll need to be speakig with our technical team.
I’ll drop them a note.
Hi Daniel,
[context: I help a bit on the server administration side of things here at nlab]
Cool to see your project. Prepping up nlab semantically could be a worthwhile endeavour.
Can you help me a bit on what you need support on / help with? As Urs already pointed out, the raw content, as well as all the html rendered pages, are available on github and can be either parsed with a customized (itex2MML) markdown parser. Otherwise, you can try to parse the HTML pages.
Some parts of the nlab wiki already have categories, which you might be able to make use of, e.g. for people.
Sorry for the delay to reply. Please continue to shoot questions at us!
Bye!
I don’t need support so much; this is more about good manners.
In #1 there seemed to be the question of what to make of the entry count on the the nLab.
Not sure what you are asking (I don’t know what it means that “the last corpus was built”), but otherwise it does not sound inappropriate. .
As an aside, I can say that the pages with “empty” or “> history” in their title arise because there is no mechanism in our Instiki software for users to delete pages. Instead, there is a server-side command (which however has never been run so far) for administrators to delete all “orphaned” pages, namely those that receive no link from any other nLab page. Hence the closest for users to get rid of a page is to rename it to a title that is unlikely to be referenced anywhere.
Some background for the interested. In 2020 Valeria de Paiva, Jacob Collard and Evan Patterson built a 500M NLP corpus of nLab, nlab.conll. This is the first step in integrating WikiData with nLab. Jacob has build Parmesan which accesses nLab information from WikiData. See Parmesan. I am beginning to document the build process at NetMath. One goal is to be able to create a corpus at will. nLab has 3K or 4K more entries than it did in 2020. I use nlab.conll to do regular expression queries.
Thanks for the information about history and empty pages. I’ll get feedback on whether to capture the page names for the corpus.
5242 pages are tagged with people tag; I estimate by frequency of creation which I observe in latest pages that at nearly a half of these entries are rather recent, say last 2 years or so.
I’m now finishing up creating a current corpus of nLab. Of course some issues have come up; I’m not including blank pages or pages with ” > history” in their name. There is also an issue about including pages from the people category. While there are some notable people, it is largely entries for what other systems consider users. Wikipedia supports users with their own namespace. What do people think, should all pages from the people category be included in the corpus?
The people pages mostly are about authors of references that are being cited on nLab pages.
The point is that readers interested in one reference they find on the nLab can click on the author name to find other writings by that author.
Thanks for the explanation, I missed the connection between authors and references.
I’m now working on running queries on the nLab corpus using Python. My near term goal is to be able to quickly answer elaborate questions about the corpus. So let me know if anyone has any questions about the nLab data.
I am now reconciling the figures I have from the 2020 nLab corpus and the current 2024 corpus. The Topos Institute nLab2024 corpus contains the code and datafiles for the project. The stats2024.xml file suggest nLab has twice the content it had back in 2020, but the difference in file size suggests a 33% increase in content. Do folks at nForum have any estimates that would either support or invalidate these results.
I have no idea. It seems the one uniquely in position to answer such questions now is: you. :-)
My work for Valeria de Paiva supporting the identification of mathematical concepts in nLab continues. One consequence is that less and less of nLab is included in the 2024 corpus because we currently are only concern with pages whose name is a mathematical concept. The following shows the page names and categories that are currently excluded from the current corpus. As a result only 13 K of the 19 K nLab pages are included. Since this change may impact the project’s usefulness to the nForum community I wanted to give folks a heads up. I’m now writing reports to provide different overviews of nLab. For example I am tracking the number of excluded pages by reason. Please let me know if this software’s functionality can be extended to serve the needs of this community.
Excluded page names:
Excluded categories:
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