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Started lift.
weak factorization system has redirects from: lifting property, right lifting property, left lifting property, lifting problem, lifting problems.
Would it be better to have these redirect to lift?
Thanks. True, the entire paragraph “Preliminaries” would deserve to have a dedicated entry. You could copy that over to “lift” and redirect the redirects accordingly.
Ok, have done that, but no doubt there’s a better arrangement at lift.
The lift of a morphism along an epimorphism (or more general map) is a morphism such that .
I changed “the” here to “a”.
Looking at extension where it has dually
The extension of a morphism…
it doesn’t seem so clearly wrong. I guess there’s ambiguity between ’extension’ as the act of extending and as an instance of so extending, as you see in the second paragraph of lift
The dual problem is the extension of a morphism…
I’ll change ’the’ to ’a’ at extension.
Following discussion in another thread here, I have created a new section
and filled it with material that, up to some superficial first polishing by me, has kindly been written by the Anonymous Guest from that thread (copied over from Sandbox rev 2402, where it was first compiled as Sandbox rev 2401).
As I write in that other thread, I think there is much room to polish this material up and make it more readable and more use-friendly, but I think it’s great to have this considerable list of examples now. Maybe it inspires more readers here to join in and try their hand at some editing.
At present the Idea section starts
Intuitively, the lifting property is a negation in category theory:
This seems strange to me. That does not fit my intuition at all! No doubt there are examples of lifting properties that are somehow a bit like some form of negation, and a lot of others a bit like ’orthogonality or ’being perpendicular to’ but it does seem a bit strange to start like this. There are also important examples that do not correspond intuitively to a negation at all.
Excellent. That looks much clearer and I now understand where the ‘negation’ idea was coming from.
I found myself musing for a moment how general this ’negation’ point of view is, for instance whether it holds for the standard model structures on simplicial and cubical sets…I think it does! One can I think reasonably argue that horn inclusions are the correct analogues of in higher dimensions, so it works out correctly that Kan fibrations are the ’negations of archetypical cofibrations’, and I think it is also true that cofibrations are the ’negations of archetypical Kan fibrations’, though I’ve never seen this expressed before: I think the obvious analogues of the map from a two point set to a one point set in higher dimensions would be the fold maps for all (for cubical sets; the obvious analogue for simplicial sets), and, as far as I see, a) these are indeed Kan fibrations b) cofibrations (i.e. monomorphisms) are exactly those morphisms of cubical/simplicial sets with the right lifting property with respect to the set of these fold maps ranging over . I wonder if this observation is good for anything!
Yes, I gather such observations are the reason for Misha Gavrilovich’s choice of terminology “Quillen negation” (though that entry remains a stub and the respective comments in the article listed there are brief).
The whole development of separation axioms in terms of lifting properties is driven, I feel, by a sense of wonder that some basic but neat observations about lifting properties have remained underappreciated.
This reminds me a lot of Categories, Allegories where Freyd and Scedrov formulate a version of first-order logic of diagrams that was centered around looking at how a diagram extends along a functor . For example, is an initial object iff every extension along (inserting into the left term) has a unique extension along (inserting as source and target).
(I’m more reacting to “formulate things as lifting properties” in general, rather than an idea of ’negation’)
Perhaps Misha will see this thread and care to comment. If there were some way to construct a model structure using these kind of observations, or use the characterisation of the cofibrations that I gave in #11 for some interesting purpose, that would be very nice.
This page defines the left lifting property of morphism i with respect to a morphism p. However, projective+object uses the concept of left lifting property of object p (with respect to epimorphisms) to define p being a projective object, and then it links to here.
This page does not define what it means for an object to have the left lifting property with respect to a class of morphisms.
While I was at it, I have re-typeset the definition of “left/right orthigonal class”/”Quillen negation” (here)
And I am moving the Example that followed from here to Quillen negation.
Looking over it now, it seems logically correct to me; but the problem may be that the notation is ambiguous and not what the previous definition 2.3 actually introduces.
i am trying to fix it…
Glad you like the edit. If you are energetic, please feel invited to look into fixing the notation in the following section (Examples - Groups), too! :-)
Looking at this page, isn’t it odd to have it named ’lift’ but then to talk about lifting property. Why not call this page ’lifting property’ and have a separate page for lift, in the sense indicated at lifts and extensions?
The page used to start out with a line saying what a lift is, up to and including revision 15, following your initial version 1.
That line was deleted in revision 16 by “Anonymous” (Oct 2021) and replaced by a paragraph on the lifting property.
As so often, we need to fix that Anonymous edit.
People are so rude!
But now coming to fix this, is there any case for lifting property to dominate this page? Wouldn’t it be better if it had its own page?
Yes, sure. If you have the energy, it would be best to have two separate pages.
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