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Hey, that's exactly the right idea! This is the way to go.
What you are describing can be said like this:
for an -algebra, a flat -valued connection (on a trivial bundle) is a morphism of oo-Lie algebroids
we may integrate this to a morphism of oo-Lie groupoids, where it becomes
where G is the oo-group that integrates
we can make this non-flat precisely the way you describe: we describe a flat connection with coefficients in something one degree higher. That thing is the mapping cone on the identity on , which is a Lie (n+1)-algebra if was a Lie n-algebra.
So a non-flat -connection is a locally a flat -connection,
There is, to my mind, a beuatiful story developing from this point. This is, incidentally, the story that I am trying to develop on my personal web. :-)
Directly addressing your remark is for instance the entry curvature of oo-Lie algebroid valued differential forms. This sits in a bigger story of a full theory of higher connections, as you can find out by walking around the links provided there.
I'd be happy to talk about this stuff more. That's nice. I am enjoying how you recently kept addressing various points that I am very intested in.
Thanks Domenico (#1), that just clicked for me now!
there are too many banks of herrings swimming there (at least for my taste).
Thanks for saying this, I am grateful for suggestions here.
I see what you mean. Yes, I should change that terminology maybe. I can't do it right now, though.
Thanks Domenico (#1), that just clicked for me now!
I see. Would one of you mind writing a sentence or two then describing the situation in words that you think carry the message better? Like, into the Idea section of that entry on my page?
Sorry for asking this, but I just figured maybe I am saying it the wrong way all along and it comes across much better if somebody else says it.
At which page do you want that?
It's quite possible that you already wrote what, if I had read it as carefully as Domenico's comment, would also have made it click for me. But sometimes I don't read carefully everything that you write; there's too much of it for that.
I am feeling a bit embarrased asking for this, but if you don't mind: I am thinking of the page curvature of oo-Lie algebroid valued forms
That needs more in the Idea-section anyway. Strictly speaking what I have there is a stub that I once wrote in a haste in reply to some blog discussion we had on Courant algebroids and the like. I will have to go over that page anyway.
I am also undecided as to how that page should sit besides the similar oo-Lie algebroid valued forms. Maybe I should merge both to one single page.
This is a very good point. I think I know what you mean only that I think that it is a bit more non-straightforward than it may seem. But maybe I am wrong about this. So let's see.
First, let me tell the story on how we ran into this originally, which sheds some light on the truncation business:
first we defined the 1-path goupoid whose morphisms are thin-homotopy classes of paths, and proved that morphisms are ordinary -connections, i.e. locally given by -valued forms.
Then at the beginning we thought the pattern should continue this way: we next defined the path 2-groupoid whose 1- and 2-morphisms are thin-homotopy classes of 1- and 2-paths, respectively. Then for a smooth 2-group we thought a 2-bundle with connection should be a morphism, .
But this showed a then unepected constraint: this is equivalent to "fake flat" 2-bundles, those for which the 2-form curvature part vanishes, and only the top 3-form curvature part may be nontrivial.
Back then this used to be a puzzle. Today I have understood what's going on. It is essentially what you just said:
We can think of as a kind of truncation of , where we have done 2 things:
thrown away all non-thin higher morphisms;
divide out the thin higher morphisms.
The fact that there are no nontrivial 3-morphisms in accounts for the fact that morphisms have no constraint in degree 3, hence may have non-vanishing 3-form curvature. But the 2-form curvature has to vanish, given by the fact that there are 2-paths in between 1-paths.
Similarly, one can define path n-groupoids for higher n this way by throwing away non-thin higher morphisms and dividing out thin ones. And then for an n-group, morphisms are given by -valued form data where all the -form curvature connections have to vanish, except the one of degree n+1.
We can get the fully unconstrained situation by instead looking at morphisms out of but with values not in but in .
However, I am not sure how one would systematically go about the hierarchical truncation that you seemed to suggest. Maybe think of it under the Dold-Kan image, where it is easier to see what is going on: there corresponds to the deRham dg-algebra. What would you replace that with -- which other dg-algebra -- to get the desired truncation?
Hey Domenico,
thanks, that's great that you are thinking about this. I apologize for not having replied earlier. i was being distracted by other things, unfortunately.
I had had this co-tower on my blackboard a few times with similar thoughts as you voice here, but somehow I never arrived at making some definite kind of statement.
You make some very good points here. Such that simplicially we obtain just by looking at the subset of -thin maps .
I think you are also right that a plausible guess for the dg-version of it is just .
And in fact the infinitesimal simplicial object correspomnding to that should just be the infinitesimal singular simplicial complex truncated abve degree .
Yes I think with all this one can decompose the obstruction problem of extending along into an infinite sequence of obstruction problems.
There are actually some examples of this in the literature. For instance some people like to study "abelian gerbes with connection but without curving". What this really means is studying the 2-functors for G a 2-group, instead of . I have some thoughts on how this is needed for describing the intgeration of Courant algebroids. But it did never really solidify so far.
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Urs,<br/><br/>nothing to apologize! one writes things in a forum so that others can read them when they have time. the day I'll want you to immediately reply I'll use Skype instead, I promise :-)<br/><br/>but let us come back to n-connections. I'm glad you like my point of view. I'll try to develop it better as february (and exams..) ends. there's a point in what you write that confuses me:<br/><br/><blockquote><br/>2-functors for G a 2-group<br/></blockquote><br/><br/>do you mean<br/><br/>2-functors for G a 2-group?
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Er, right, I changed what I wanted to say here while saying it. Of course we can look at this for any , but what I meant to say is that in the literature, this appears sometimes, but only for then. At least as far as I have seen. Not that this means anything, I just meant to indicate what of these generally sensible ideas already has a faint indication in existing literature.
that's true, right. Yes, that's the way it is.
Thanks, I am reading. It is a delight to see you pick up these observations.
Here is one general remark that should be made at some point:
there is a subtlety hidden here that to the unattentive eye may look like making the whole construction become void, while it is axctually the crucial thing that makes the theory tick here:
namely at the point where you come to the mapping cone of the identity, the informed reader should get worried that you are just describing the point in a sophisticated manner.
Because is weakly equivalent to the point. The Weil algebra has trivial cohomology. So the mapping space of oo-Lie algebroupoids is contractible: every such non-flat connection is gauge equivalent to the trivial one!
Why is that? Because the gauge transformations of morphisms are more than what should be a gauge transformation of a 1-connection. Since this is really now a flat 2-connection, the gauge transformations are those of 2-connections. And these may act by shifting the 1-form part by simply adding a (non-closed) 1-form. But that's of course no longer a gauge transformation of the original 1-form connection.
So what's really happening is that in the contractible space of maps one needs to "carve out" the space of connections and their gauge transformations.
This is accomplished by realizing that is really one component map in a diagram of such morphisms. You have seen these double square diagrams on my webpage and maybe elsewhere, I suppose. The admissable gauge transformations are those of the entire diagram, and that constrains the transformations of TX --> inn(g) in the correct way.
Told this way, this may look like a big hack hust to fix tings. But quite the opposite is true: one can see that the oo-groupoid of these diagrams naturally occurs as the "curvature-twisted flat differential cohomology" of X. Whatever that means, it means that these diagrams are given from the gods to us and not man-made.
Indeed, one can see that the old notion of Ehresmann connection, at least when formulated in Cartan's style, expressed precisely such a diagram, with three ingredients:
a non-flat 1-form on the total space of the bundle (that's the piece you currently describe on your page)
with a first constraint: restricted to the fibers it has to become flat
and a second constraint: the curvature characteristic classes formed from it have to descend to the base space.
It's these two constraints that also constrain the gauge transformation of such as to be what we expect them to be.
The abstract nonsense-punchline of all this: non-flat differential cohomology is really twisted cohomology, namely curvature (or chern-character-)twisted flat differential cohomology.
This simple-sounding sentence has a precise formal meaning, and unwinding what this means in detail produces the fact that we want to be looking at morphisms that are constrained to sit in a certain diagram of other oo-Lie algebroid morphisms.
I am not sure if I am following your notation . Could you say this in more detail?
Is what you write really different from what I was talking about, or not more a refinement of the situation, in that you discuss the cotower in between and ?
By the way, I thought about the push-forward and quantization of differential cocycles: at least the kind of connections that I am talking about are objects in the homotopy fiber of a Chern-character map . If the codomain and domain object here have push-forwards, then this induces a push-forward on the homotopy fiber. I think this is the right notion of push-forward and quantizaiton of differential cohomology.
Notably when A is fully abelian, I think this reproduces the standard notion of push-forward in ordinary "abelian" differential cohomology.
I think. But I haven't written this out in full detail yet.
Hi Domenico.
Thanks. After I get a bunch of other things out of the way, I get back to you here. Meanwhile, the standard question: wouldn't that better be typed into a page? :-)
There are so many entries in nlab on connections so I do not know which ones are the most appropriate for (a link to) nice Beilinson-Kazhdan manuscript on geometric quantization using connection in relative context:
Here the basic object is -connection: for a smooth morphism of smooth analytic spaces or of smooth schemes they define a -connection as -linear map such that . The “differential” here is I guess in fact the map induced by the universality of the pullback and the differential. -connection is flat/integrable if the corresponding (by adjunction) map commutes with brackets of vector fields.
I have entered the above remark as a new entry p-connection (maybe a better title is deserved; my guess is that one should take the resolution of the diagonal of the map , which gives the corresponding infinitesimal neighborhood (roughly like the neighborhood of the diagonal in the Čech resolution) and look for more “ordinary” connections there.
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