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    • CommentRowNumber1.
    • CommentAuthorTodd_Trimble
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2017
    • (edited Apr 17th 2017)

    Have internal sup-lattices in quasitoposes been studied much?

    Of course they’ve been studied in toposes to a pretty fair extent. In a topos EE, the covariant power object functor P:EEP: E \to E (where for f:XYf: X \to Y, we define Pf= f:PXPYP f = \exists_f: P X \to P Y) carries a structure of monad whose unit is the singleton map σ:XPX\sigma: X \to P X and whose multiplication is internal union X:PPXPX\bigcup_X: P P X \to P X. In fact this is a lax idempotent or KZ monad in some suitable internal sense, and we define a sup-lattice to be a PP-algebra. This is all well-studied, and figures heavily in the Joyal-Tierney monograph on a generalized Galois theory à la Grothendieck.

    It seems to me that a certain chunk of this can be developed in quasitoposes in parallel fashion. For example, for f:XYf: X \to Y let me construct PfP f by hand. There is a canonical regular subobject XX×Ω X\in_X \hookrightarrow X \times \Omega^X classified by the evaluation map X×Ω XΩX \times \Omega^X \to \Omega. Form the composite

    XX×Ω Xf×1Y×Ω X\in_X \hookrightarrow X \times \Omega^X \stackrel{f \times 1}{\to} Y \times \Omega^X

    and then take its epi-(regular mono) factorization, using the fact that quasitoposes are coregular. Take the regular image E fY×Ω XE_f \hookrightarrow Y \times \Omega^X and its classifying map χ E f:Y×Ω XΩ\chi_{E_f}: Y \times \Omega^X \to \Omega. Curry that to a map Ω XΩ Y\Omega^X \to \Omega^Y; this is what I call PfP f.

    Now I’ll construct a map X:PPXPX\bigcup_X: P P X \to P X. Form the diagram below where the square is a pullback

    E X×PX×PPX π 13 X×PPX pb 1×δ×1 X× PX X×PX×PX×PPX \array{ E & \to & X \times P X \times P P X & \stackrel{\pi_{13}}{\to} & X \times P P X \\ \downarrow & pb & \downarrow \mathrlap{1 \times \delta \times 1} & & \\ \in_X \times \in_{P X} & \hookrightarrow & X \times P X \times P X \times P P X & & }

    and take the regular image of the top composite, say ΣX×PPX\Sigma \hookrightarrow X \times P P X. Curry its classifying map χ Σ:X×PPXΩ\chi_\Sigma: X \times P P X \to \Omega to get the map X:PPXPX\bigcup_X: P P X \to P X.

    All this is parallel to similar constructions in topos theory; we’re just being mindful to take regular images instead of just images at the appropriate steps. And so if I had to guess, I’d guess that there’s not a great deal of difference: we get a KZ monad PP on a quasitopos just as we do in topos theory, and there are theorems like PP-algebra maps are the same as internal left adjoints between algebras, and there’s an adjoint functor theorem that if XYX \to Y is a map between sup-lattices that preserves infs, then it has a left adjoint.

    Does anyone know about this?

    • CommentRowNumber2.
    • CommentAuthorMike Shulman
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2017

    Good question! I don’t recall seeing this developed anywhere, but you could check for instance Wyler’s book on quasitopoi. The only thing that I would worry about at first glance is to what extent the adjoint functor theorem depends on the function comprehension principle, which is false for the logic of regular subobjects in a quasitopos.

    • CommentRowNumber3.
    • CommentAuthorTodd_Trimble
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2017

    Thanks for that heads-up! The adjoint functor theorem I had in mind is a very algebraic form which uses basically the structures available for lax idempotent monads, and so I think such a blunt instrument as the general adjoint functor theorem wouldn’t be needed for the context I had in mind.

    The reason I’m asking has to do with an answer I’ve just written up to an MO query by Qiaochu Yuan. Luckily, I saw in the meantime how to circumvent a lot of the complications in getting such a theory of sup-lattices up and running.