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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2018

    I gave this classical reference

    • David Hilbert, Naturerkennen und Logik, Lecture at the Kongress der Gesellschaft Deutscher Naturforscher und Ärtze, 1930 (pdf, audio)

    its own little category:references entry, for ease of cross-linking at related entries for Wigner and Galilei, and in order to record that famous quote more visibly than hidden behind a link to a pdf.

    v1, current

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    • CommentAuthorDavidRoberts
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2018

    Have you (or anyone else) ever come across a transcript of the full speech (not the radio version) in English translation?

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    • CommentAuthorTodd_Trimble
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018

    We must not believe those, who today with philosophical bearing and a tone of superiority prophesy the downfall of culture and accept the ignorabimus. For us there is no ignorabimus, and in my opinion even none whatever in natural science.

    I’d be curious what or who he had in mind here. My immediate thought was that many intellectuals were still under the spell of Spengler and his predictions of eventual cultural demise.

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018

    David, do you have a link to a German transcript, if any? I haven’t seen that either.

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    • CommentAuthorDavid_Corfield
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018
    • (edited Sep 20th 2018)

    Todd, as you point out, a reasonable guess as to someone he had in mind concerning prophecies about the downfall of culture would be Oswald Spengler and his The Decline of the West.

    Interesting. I hadn’t realised that “Mathematics is the object of the first chapter of Spengler’s book”

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    • CommentAuthorUlrik
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018

    Re 3, as far as I know (and according to Wikipedia), it refers to Emil du Bois-Reymond’s phrase ignoramus et ignorabimus. (Emil was an older brother of Paul du Bois-Reymond.)

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    • CommentAuthorDavidRoberts
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018
    • (edited Sep 20th 2018)

    @Urs

    there seems to be this article by Hilbert with the same name, with gems such as

    Drosophila ist eine kleine Fliege, aber groß ist unser Interesse für sie

    !

    Here is a differently-typeset free version

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    • CommentAuthorDavid_Corfield
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018
    • (edited Sep 20th 2018)

    Urs, it seems that the lecture was published, is in his Collected works in German (pp. 378-387) and translated in W. Ewald, From Kant to Hilbert, 1996, pp. 1157-1165. The English title is ’Logic and the knowledge of nature’.

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018

    Ukrik, thanks, I have hyperlinked “ignorabimus” in the entry, accordingly.

    David C., thanks, I have added this to the top of the entry.

    diff, v2, current

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    • CommentAuthorDavidRoberts
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018

    Aha, here is a Google Books preview (I can read all but three pages)

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    • CommentAuthorTodd_Trimble
    • CommentTimeSep 20th 2018

    Ulrik, that’s very interesting; thanks! I also had no idea the du Bois-Reymonds were German.

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    • CommentAuthorUrs
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2023

    have referenced that quote by Kant

    diff, v5, current

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